Hungarians, conspiracy theories and Budapest’s allegiance to Moscow

Political Capital, one of Hungary’s most prominent think tanks, reminds us this week that 42% of Hungarians believe that it is not the government in Budapest, with its near super majority in parliament, which controls events in the country, but rather some other, shadowy force. Among those who believe this to be true, 30% are convinced that Jews rule the world and rule Hungary as well. This is why Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s relentless hate campaign against George Soros, the billionaire Hungarian-American Holocaust survivor, is proving so successful.

Mr. Orbán’s conspiracy theory, broadcast widely and highly repetitively by other government ministers in an all pro-government publications, is best summed up by Russia Today, in an article entitled “George Soros: A psychopath’s psychopath,” which quotes the Hungarian prime minister at length:

“Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán is quoted as saying, ‘This invasion is driven, on the one hand, by people smugglers, and on the other hand by those activists who support everything that weakens the nation-state.’Orbán went on, “This Western mindset and this activist network is perhaps best represented by George Soros.”

Soros (…) responded to Orban’s comments by arguing that his beliefs “uphold European values”. I don’t know what Soros means by ‘European values,’ but I assume it includes lots more immigration for us – unilaterally decided upon by Mr. Soros.”

According to Political Capital, the systematic attacks on Mr. Soros from Fidesz is a nod to Hungary’s anti-Semitic far-right. The narrative is very simple, yet effective, according to the think tank: “Soros is a Jew, who is flooding Christian Hungary with Muslims.”

What the pro-Fidesz media never mentions, however, is how much Russia’s bombing of Aleppo, in Syria, exacerbated the refugee crisis, which the Hungarian government likes to suggest is either the doing of Mr. Soros, or is being used by the businessman to destroy Christian Hungary and Europe.

As Political Capital points out, the pro-Fidesz media accepts at face value reports and conspiracy theories appearing in Russian publications and shares these views from Moscow, generally ones that are advantageous to President Vladimir Putin, most enthusiastically with Hungarian readers.

For instance, shortly after Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was shot down over war-torn Eastern Ukraine in 2014, resulting in 298 deaths, the pro-Fidesz media followed the line from Moscow and put the blame squarely on the West, even though a Dutch inquiry into the tragedy suggested Russian involvement and the use of a Russian rocket in downing the plane. With assistance from Moscow, Russian rebels in Eastern Ukraine almost certainly shot down the airplane. But one of Hungary’s most prominent and vitriolic publicists, Zsolt Bayer, also a founding member of Fidesz and close friend of Mr. Orbán, suggested that the West may have caused the tragedy, “as it is outstanding propaganda and the whole arsenal of sanctions (against Russia) have already been prepared.”

EchoTV, a far-right and staunchly pro-Orbán cable news channel owned by oligarch Gábor Széles, theorized that a failure on the part of Ukrainian air control likely caused the disaster, completely “neglecting” to inform its viewers about the central role of a rocket.

During the Euromaidan revolution in Kyiv (2013-14), pro-Fidesz media in Hungary adopted verbatim the line from Moscow, which characterized the upheaval in Ukraine not as an uprising against a corrupt, pro-Putin regime by Ukrainians who wanted closer ties with the European Union, but as a coup d’état by neo-Nazis and fascists. Hungary’s public broadcaster, for instance, labelled anyone who opposed pro-Russian Ukrainian president, Viktor  Yanukovych, who was forced out of office, as a “terrorist.” Both the Magyar Hírlap and the Magyar Idők pro-Fidesz dailies suggested that Mr. Yanukovych was deposed with the assistance of the West and, in particular, the United States. One of EchoTV’s popular anchors declared that Euromaidan was tantamount to a “NATO-putsch” and then referred to the new Ukrainian government as a “junta.”

More recently, Hungarian pro-Fidesz media accepted at a face value a discredited theory developed in Russia about how the terrorists who struck Brussels on March 22nd were Belarussian nationals who had converted to Islam. Recently, there had been tension between Moscow and Minsk, as the latter attempts to improve its relationship with the West, in an effort to end sanctions. Both Hungary’s public broadcaster and the Magyar Idők daily published news items based on this discredited theory.

Vladimir Putin visits Viktor Orbán in Budapest, but the sizeable Russian flag blocks the view of the Hungarian capital.

Vladimir Putin visits Viktor Orbán in Budapest, but the sizeable Russian flag blocks the view of the Hungarian capital.

Budapest’s increasingly servile allegiance to Moscow does not end here. Most recently, the Budapest Festival Orchestra was forced to cancel a number of performances and programs, after it lost public funding, following critical, anti-government remarks made by its conductor, Iván Fischer. One of the concerts on the chopping block due to lack of funds was one planned for St. Petersburg. The local Russian organizers were outraged and turned to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Russian Ministry registered its displeasure with Hungarian Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó, who then immediately agreed to pay for the trip to Russia out of his Ministry’s own budget.

Mr. Orbán declared in 2010, after winning a super-majority in parliament, that Hungary was fighting its “war of independence.” At the time, he did not mention that his one and only ally is Vladimir Putin.

22 Comments

  1. Hungarian Free Press is a one trick pony and the trick is Christopher Adam who may have forgotten that his ancestors may have fled communist Hungary – if he has anything to do with Hungary in terms of lineage. This site claims that it is a ‘non-partisan news source’. Far from it. It is as left-liberal as it can be. But, what one can expect from a person who graduated from several of the most socialist institutions in Canada which itself is a socialist country and it is still shifting to the left

    • Avatar Christopher Adam says:

      Joe Wade,

      Rest assured: my grandfather and father both fled Hungary in 1956. My grandfather had been imprisoned by the Stalinist regime, before being released two years later during the revolution. Perhaps that is one reason why I am concerned when the Hungarian prime minister is allying himself with Vladimir Putin.

      But how about you look at the specifics in the article and comment on that?

  2. Avatar Charlie London says:

    How can anybody in Hungary get ANY idea of what is happening in Hungary?

    With Magyar Hírlap and Magyar Idők, Echo TV and propaganda maestro himself – Viktorlae Orbanescu – no one can get a handle on the truth.

    No one.

    It’s no wonder so many Hungarians believe in conspiracy theories – I’ve had some very weird conversations with them myself.

    And of course you have your own ‘arch-conspiracy’ theorist on here – whose ectoplasmic belches ruin your blog, Chris – and that very few read.

    • Avatar Charlie London says:

      Of course – I forgot to mention MTI – the government press agency – which is the root of all evil and where all paths lead back to Viktorlae.

      The vicious circle of propaganda.

  3. “Joe Wade” is probably a paid Fidesznik whose job is to create instant responses to deny unfavorable comments similar to the bald headed ones who perform the dirty work (beating up protesters, etc.) that the police can not be asked to do in Budapest.

  4. Avatar Dr. Habil. Andras Fodor says:

    Dear Christopher,
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    Thank you for this new ideas-inducing article from you. We have been arguing in several subject except for the worries about the dangerous ties between Putin’s spider network and the Hungarian government.
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    Now I have to argue with you only in one point.
    Mr. Soros, whose family was badly killed by the Germans during the Holocaust managed to survive these tragic years as an ADOPTED CHILD OF ARROW-CROSS FASCIST,who was helped ny hos adopted son in TAKING THINGS AWAY FROM PURE FELLOW CO-PATRIOTS of Israeli identity. Later when he was asked how could he remember those years, he declared that he did not think that “there was anything thing wrong” what he had done then.

    Therefore I could not score Mr. Soros to the martyr Holocaust-survivors.
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    De. Soros is definitely interested in the force Islamisation of Europe and Europe.
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    I simply do not understand his motivations.
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    I do not think that he has ever been motivated by anything but personal financial interest. He has never been motivated by ideas, humanitarian considerations, filantropic phylosophy, political principles, religion, pro,- or contra emotions. He has emotionally completely neutral toward both Hungary and Israel.
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    He enjoy playing the role of Fantomas.
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    His “open society” is a great humbug.
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    Sorry for my opinion different from yours. But we agree about Zsolt Bayer and the Russian-paid Gábor Széles, Echo TV, “Magyar Idők” and Russia Today.

    • “De. Soros is definitely interested in the force Islamisation of Europe and Europe.
      I simply do not understand his motivations.”

      Globalist NWO Cutout who funnels KM money to pay to transport the displaced local people in the destabilized Mideast to punish the Europe for their BDS to reverse the trend by turning Europe against Islamics.

  5. Christopher Adam: I know the generation which left Hungary in 1956. Those people are turning in their graves to listen the lef-lib propaganda by your site. Those people who left Hungary in 1956 were against dictatorship which is the EU now. The apple fell far from the tree.

    Regarding Hungary lining up with Putin is not exactly as you implicitly portray it to be. You need to understand: Hungary is a small nation and as such has to have semi-friendly relationship with many countries, including Russia. Russia is a main player in Europe and can not be neglected. Hungary is between the the rock and the hard place and you may not understand that. Now, if one does not like side A then the dynamics are such that side B relationship seems to gain focus. Side A right now is the EU and it is not working out for Hungary and obviously not for Britain either. In addition maybe Italy and Holland are next for referendum in the fall. It seems that you want to force a round peg into a square hole. It does not work unless you rework the shape of either the hole or the peg. That is what the EU needs.

    In addition, I am not a paid troll, I am a simple man without any affiliation. I only try to connect the dots which is not as common in these days as you may think.

    • I see it is easy for you to try and push the party line, however, those of us who lived and worked and were schooled during Kadar era know exactly who the wolf in sheep clothing is, and guess what? It is NOT the EU. In fact the ones taking Hungary back to dictatorship with the guise of being a democracy is that of Fidesz. First thing I thought of when communism fell and people were misinterpreting “freedom of speech” is how people forget the sins of the 40’s. The first thing I thought of when the riots broke out 2006 after the leaked audio of Gyurcsany, was that the old commies were vying for power. When Fidesz won the elections and decided to change the constitution and when I realized the changes were intended to limit freedoms, I thought, here we go, right under peoples noses they are pretending to be a democracy. When we started to see the nationalization of businesses, I realized that they were planning on enriching their friends and family all while putting Hungarians in poverty to ensure total control of the populace. When Orban gave his speech in Romania at the youth camp, I saw that once again we have a power hungry leader in Hungary who isn’t opposed to stirring up ethnic tensions to gain more power. When the decision was made to change the curriculum in schools, I realized they were brainwashing the young. Shall I go on? Just because someone believes in liberal democracy, it certainly doesn’t make him a socialist. The one who was raised by communist loyalists, served as communist informers, who was educated by the communist government simply thought of a strategy to use the anti-communist psyche of Hungarians against them, also the fact that they really never experienced proper freedom, he has used that against them. Hungary has received nothing but benefits from being a part of the EU, except much of the money didn’t flow down to the people like it should have. This is why it is easy to convince Hungarians, especially ones born after 1990 that there is no benefit. This in part because they do not remember communism. Now they are being fooled by all this nationalism garbage. The old think that it is so different now because they are brainwashed to just kiss the ass of the leader, whoever he may be as this may afford them better benefits and keep them from potentially being seen as trouble by the authorities. Unfortunately another side effect of the communist era. Whether you like it or not, countries do better if they are economically working together with other countries on their continent, sharing in policy, with a joint commitment to their people. Comparing it with forced cooperation by dictatorship is nothing but propaganda. Hungary pursued the EU, signed an agreement with the EU to follow its rules in order to receive the benefits. Remember that with rights there comes also responsibilities. Fidesz sure likes the rights, but doesn’t care to live up to the responsibility part. After the 1956 revolution it was the LIBERAL Canadian Prime Minister Louis Saint Laurent and his government that welcomed the first wave of Hungarian refugees to Canada and he HATED the communist regime. This idea of lumping liberals and communists together is getting ridiculous already, give it up my friend. Yet another who cannot seem to see the forest for the trees I am afraid.

  6. P.S. This from the daughter of a 1956 freedom fighter.

  7. Li Aucoin: I never equated the liberals and the communists. The current liberals are socialists, more accurately democratic-socialists as they call themselves. Socialism is just the first step towards communism but they are not there yet. Also liberalism has many chades in these days. Some like to live well (I call them bourgeois socialists), enjoying the free market of the capitalist system while they live the life of the privileged compared to over most of the 6 billion people of the world but they are parroting social justice, lack of equality, in the US Sanders talks about free college (just like in communist Hungary), free this and free that and they are actively working against the capitalist system which made them well off.

    And you are correct, not all liberals are socialists. The liberals of the 60s and 70s are far cry from the liberals today. Today’s liberals are fighting for power, big government, state control in all aspects of people’s lives. Just look at the EU where large number of unelected left-liberals control the lives of 100s of millions of people. That is why Britain voted for the exit. Some other countries will soon follow. Liberals can just as well be dictatorial as communists or fascists. That’s all I am saying.

  8. Avatar Kalasz Musztafa says:

    Christopher Adam,

    This is one of the most delusional and kindergarten-rated article i ever read. Its seems to me that you are enjoying the sideshow of fueling hatred on anything that has to do with the name…Hungary, Hungarians, Magyars or anything that associates with Hungarians, in another word you are spreading far too much Hungarophobia in nearly every articles to such an extent that its correct to label the Hungarian Free Press site as the most extreme Hungarophobic site on the internet. Sorry mate, but Hungarophobia is just as bad as anti-semitism, in my eyes because of my Hungarian origin, Hungarophobia is way more worst than anti-semitism, but yes for the Jews its the opposite because of their origin. You’ve been complaining about how bad the anti-semitism and racism is in Hungary and how you feel sorry for Hungarian citizens of Jew origin suffering from bigotry and prejudice from the majority Hungarian populations, but on the other side of the picture, its the dumb ignorant paraszt (peasant) like you who are encouraging and causing anti-semitism in Hungary to be much more worst. Have you realised the damage you are causing on Hungarian citizens including Jews? Have you ever thought that Hungarophobia would automatically backlash and trigger anti-semitism?
    If someone is injured and you are not a doctor to operate, but you still operating the wounded without any qualification, you ended up having the victim to suffer more pain from their wound cause of your STUPIDITY. This is exactly what you are doing to the Hungarian jewish and no-jewish citizens. You are spreading anti-semitism and Hungarophobia, which seems to me that you are a Zionist or Zionist-paid unless if im wrong.

    First of all I disagree with the fact about George Soros, he cannot be classified as Holocaust survivor, since we all know that he is a criminal, with heavy criminal past. He is no different to that of “Sondercommando” or the other Nazi-paid group of Jews having to kill or torture their fellow Jews at the camp.
    We dont hate George Soros because of his Jewish origin, we hate him because he’s an evil trouble maker for many countries and citizens around the world, even sensible innocent Jews had enough of him. George Soros is another of those scum elites that is running the World today through World Bank.
    If Im a Prime Minister of Hungary even if im a muslim, I would either charge or execute him right on the spot, but if this would cause more fear on Hungarian Jews, then i would ask the Jewish community of Hungary to deal with George Soros, they can even assassinate him if they want and I be more than happy to grant the jewish community an honorary title. Because Im pretty sure that there many orthodox jewish Rabbis out there that want him killed.

    “Among those who believe this to be true, 30% are convinced that Jews rule the world and rule Hungary as well.”

    Most part of it is true yes, Jews like George Soros, Bilderberg, Rothschild do rule the world, but its not just Jews, there’s also many organisations like Zionist who rule the world as well, Zionist doesnt necessarily mean Jews, even Christian, Muslims and many other people of different religion and origins can be Zionist as well.

    “The narrative is very simple, yet effective, according to the think tank: “Soros is a Jew, who is flooding Christian Hungary with Muslims.”

    Well George Soros is also responsible for destroying the Euro currency by making the US dollars superior to those of the Euro currency through financial corruption and trying to destroy the EU community because of his greed. Its only thank to George Soros and his corporate mafia guys who put those dictators in power inside the EU institutions.
    But if you believe that many Hungarians like Orban or me are anti-semitic because we hate Soros, then i recommend you to read this article about our current Hungarian Fidesz government planning to refurbish 120 Jewish cemeteries in Hungary. Thats how anti-semitic we Hungarians are according to your claim.
    http://bbj.hu/budapest/hungary-to-refurbish-jewish-cemeteries_119252

    “What the pro-Fidesz media never mentions, however, is how much Russia’s bombing of Aleppo, in Syria, exacerbated the refugee crisis, which the Hungarian government likes to suggest is either the doing of Mr. Soros, or is being used by the businessman to destroy Christian Hungary and Europe.”

    OK, Christopher i can answer that as a muslim Hungarian, Fidesz government and the majorities of Hungarians like me are sick and tired of wahhabi terrorist organisation like Nusra and ISIS spreading terror in France, Germany or anywhere else in Europe, Russia had enough too, also it was Al Assad who ask Putin for help.

    Now i like to ask you, why is it that YOU dont mention anything about all those terrorist attack in Europe caused by Nusra and ISIS coming from Syria hiding among refugees?
    Be very honest with me, who funded Nusra and ISIS? Is it US, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Israel? Because i as a muslim can tell you that right now, that the support and fund is not coming from the muslims at all.
    Name me those countries that is receiving oil and money from Saudi Arabia and Qatar? Yes Israel is one of them, who’s next? List me some more.

    As for the rest of the article, its quite delusional im sorry to say.
    Even the Hungarian national football team who havent qualified for 44 years at the Euro and 30 years at the World Cup, who played really well at the EUROs which has nothing to do with politics, wasnt even spared from your Hungarophobic hatred comments few weeks ago. You were boasting and hoping that Hungary would lose against Iceland which thanks God we had no chance to lose against them, and a 3-3 draw against Portugal, you probably must have gotten a very bad day but hey thanks God we lost 4-0 against the second best team in the world…Belgium than your Iceland dream.
    So unfortunately according to your view even Hungarian national team is anti-semitic and racist. Keep up the good work Christopher, you are losing readers of this Ottawa scum-Free Press site.

    • You are a perfect example of someone who seriously is so confused by all the conspiracy theories, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Hungaraphobia? Seriously? Pull your head out of your ass for a second because the lack of oxygen is preventing you from having a single clear thought. I understand that the world is in chaos and it is hard to follow along with all of the garbage false media out there, impersonating real news sites, but get real! No one likes the fact that these terrorists are scary and they are finding it next to impossible to stop, but to continue this bullshit about Soros and blaming the Jews for everything simply because you are muslim is getting to be downright childish. All your talk about assassinating Soros is pathetic too. It is because of bunko parasztok such as you that makes this problem worse. Maybe you have been reading so much bullshit that you don’t realize that there have been no terrorist attacks by Syrian refugees. Being a Muslim does not make you somehow qualified to make such a claim that funding of ISIS and Nusra does not come from Muslims. What you do not realize is the fact that Governments, yes Governments are turning the people against one another and inciting violence against one another all while they run amok. It is their intention to have the people rise up against each other to do their dirty work, so the attention is off of them. Please don’t be so stupid to not realize what Fidesz is doing, for your own sake as a Muslim.

  9. Avatar Kalasz Musztafa says:

    Richard,

    “Globalist NWO Cutout who funnels KM money to pay to transport the displaced local people in the destabilized Mideast to punish the Europe for their BDS to reverse the trend by turning Europe against Islamics.”

    Yes thats true, the Globalist is encouraging the hatred between Christians and Muslims to the boiling point. The more divided the people are, the more control the Globalist have. The Globalist first goal is to destroy nationalism and religion among the people, because these two are the strongest weapon people can have. After that they destroy the country one by one, destroy every human race one by one by forcing this “Multiculture” garbage on every country even if the majority of the people in a nation is against it.

    By logic, if we look at the nature like animals and plants for example, a pine tree doesnt mix with a palm tree, an akac tree doesnt mix with a lemon or apricot tree. A tiger doesnt mix with a leopard, a lion doesnt mix with a jaguar, a white polar bear doesnt mix with a brown Carpathian bear, a pelican doesnt mix with a Turul bird. A Pine tree stay Pine tree, a Palm tree stay Palm tree, a tiger stay tiger, a lion stay lion, a pelican stay pelican, a Turul bird stay Turul bird, a brown bear stay brown bear.
    The same goes with human being, Hungarians stay as Hungarians, Greeks stay Greeks, Arabs stay Arabs, Blacks stay Blacks.
    There is no such thing as “Multiculture”, that is just a Globalist’s “Once upon a time fairy tale, lalala world” idea. Most of those people who support multiculture are mentally not normal, they have a very serious mental disorder. Because not even animals, plants or even 3 years old kindergarten kids believes in multiculture.

    • Only a true mental patient would make these animal comparisons to multiculturalism. First of all, we are all the same SPECIES, no one is suggesting you mix with other animals. Anyone who can even suggest what you have above in your comparison is the ones mentally not normal. Cultures are NOT the same things as SPECIES.
      I see that the extreme right wing obviously caters to people of your intelligence. Grade 5 must have been the hardest 3 years of your life.

  10. Avatar Kalasz Musztafa says:

    Liz Aucoin,

    “You are a perfect example of someone who seriously is so confused by all the conspiracy theories, you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.”

    Conspiracy theories? heh, NWO and Globalism is not conspiracy theories, its based on fact, open your eyes.

    “Hungaraphobia? Seriously? ”

    Yes i have seen many Hungarophobia article and comments coming from this website, which i find it quite disgusted because Hungarophobia is just as bad as anti-semitism. If you are denying it, then its obvious that you are also one of those leftist bigots who are spreading Hungarophobia as well.

    “Pull your head out of your ass for a second because the lack of oxygen is preventing you from having a single clear thought. I understand that the world is in chaos and it is hard to follow along with all of the garbage false media out there, impersonating real news sites, but get real!”

    My head had been pulled out of my ass 10 years ago, before that i was just as dumb and ignorant like you, but then I noticed many things out there, thats its doesnt appear to be….accidents or mistakes. Its all well planned.

    “but to continue this bullshit about Soros and blaming the Jews for everything simply because you are muslim is getting to be downright childish.”

    There is nothing bs about Soros, we all know Soros is a criminal and a trouble maker, just go and ask any Orthodox Jewish rabbis out there, they will mostly say the same thing as Im saying now. Im telling you many innocent Jews hate his gut, and it has nothing to do with Soros being a jew. George Soros is a traitor to his own Jewish people, just like we Hungarians have our own traitors. There is good and bad in every religion and nationality, if you dont get it what i mean, then its you who seriously got problems. Just look at the picture of George Soros, how much of a devil he is, is he the kind of person you admire and love? Do know many millions of people he deceived with corrupt banking system?

    Where did i wrote that im blaming the Jews for everything? You havent even fully read my comment, or are you saying that all Jews are angels and there’s no bad Jews out there? Come on grow up.

    “All your talk about assassinating Soros is pathetic too. It is because of bunko parasztok such as you that makes this problem worse.”

    Im a bunko paraszt? No, George Soros is a bunko paraszt, he’s a scammer who stole many things from other Jews, so he is a bunko paraszt, if you keep defending a war criminal then you are also bunko paraszt. I dont believe that the majority of Hungary’s Jews would admire a war criminal George Soros who gives innocent Jews a bad reputation.
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/surpise-soros-is-convicted-criminal.html

    “Maybe you have been reading so much bullshit that you don’t realize that there have been no terrorist attacks by Syrian refugees.”

    What about the raping, murder, kidnapping by those so-called refugees who wears brand new clothes and having mobile phones? Do you really call them refugees or is it economic migrants? What happened in France again in Bastille day? Are you blind? What was all this anti-semitic killing that happened in France cause by those migrants or French citizens who were originally migrant/refugee from Islamic world a few years ago? Have you noticed it?

    If its wasnt for Orban to put up the fence on our border, these migrants including terrorist hiding among migrants would be rampaging Budapest, killing Hungarian Jews if they could. Even Hungarian Jews are already worried about so many migrants going through Hungary and Europe, not just Hungarians.

    What you havent noticed, is that Hungarian police force is patrolling Budapest streets with AK-47 on their back. Thats how serious the situation is at the moment in Hungary. Back in 2008 there wasnt any Hungarian police force walking along the street with a weapon like that, they had pistol, baton and pepper spray, but now they are carrying fully automatic military-graded rifle on the streets. Just go and see for yourself.

    “Being a Muslim does not make you somehow qualified to make such a claim that funding of ISIS and Nusra does not come from Muslims.”

    If you know much about ISIS and Nusra, then answer my question? Who does ISIS and Nusra working for? They not working for real Muslims like me, thats for bloody sure, the proof for it is that they are killing too many innocent muslims not just non-muslims. Who does ISIS leader Baghdadi work for? Whats with all those vandalising and demolishing Islamic heritage and monument is all about if they claim to be fighting for so-called Islamic state? Whats with this Mosque bombing, or the most recent airport bombing in Turkey which happens to be in a Muslim country is about?

    “What you do not realize is the fact that Governments, yes Governments are turning the people against one another and inciting violence against one another all while they run amok. It is their intention to have the people rise up against each other to do their dirty work, so the attention is off of them.”

    OK Governments causing trouble, who put those type of Government in power and who is backing them, who’s financing them? Who does the….Government works for? Obviously they receive heavy backing from the scum Global elites, because the government themselves cant just come out of nowhere and being elected in the parliament without any support from someone very organised. You get me?

  11. Kalasz Musztafa
    on July 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    I lived in Muslim countries, I’m not a big expert of this issue, but what is happening in Europe is somewhat different. They are not what I saw there, they seem to me so-called Islamic extremists. It’s not the same.
    In the meantime, look at this:
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/four-million-muslims-killed-in-us-nato-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/5470424

    The power elite the RKM wants to set Russia on the US to provoke a nuclear genocide to get full control over Mideast. That’s it, and they want to clear out Iran and Syria to be able to run their own pipelines for crude oil and natural gas to Europe instead of Russia.

    I’m afraid Rothschild will survive, he even earned more than 2 trillion on the BREXIT. The power elite is truly unimaginably evil. People can’t even understand that so evil can even exist.

    As of the Russian Hungarian alliance; I don’t ask whether Orban want’s it, I rather ask who wants it. It’s not upon what Orban wants, it’s upon what Putin wants. Putin came to Hungary, then a few days later Merkel. Coincidence? No, everything was worked out and decided and not by Orban. Did they split Eastern Europe into Russian and German zones of influence? I don’t ask whether Orban allies with Russia, I ask who allies with who.

  12. Avatar Dr. Habil. Andras Fodor says:

    ISMÉT GYILKOLT A NEM LÉTEZŐ ISZLÁM RADIKALIZMUS – 84 halott, köztük 10 gyerek, – ,
    Nizzában a francia nemzeti ünnepi tüzijáték ártatlan szemlői között.

    ARAB MOHAMED NEVÚ GAZEMER CIKK-CAKKBAN MENT A JÁRDÁN, CAMIONJÁVAL=( km SBESSÉGGEL,
    hogy minéé több áldozat legyem és még tüzelt is a menekültekre.
    .
    .Obama elnök “terroristának tűnő” támadásról beszél…
    A FRANCIA ELNÖK VISZONT ISZLÁM TERRORISTA TÁMADÁSÓL BESZÉL…
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    Soros György ilyen arab Mohamedek és jövendő Mohamdek SZÜLEINEK tömeges beeresztését szoegalmazza Európában.
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    A GYÁVA ISIS újabban hivatalosan nem nyilatkozik, de video ismert arról, hogy már tavaly KAMIONOK FELHASZNÁLÁSÁT “javasolja híveinek”. Honlapjaik ujjonganak.
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    A CNNás FOX számára másodagos a nizzai hír a törökországi hírhez képest: új “példaképünket” az “illiberális” Erdogánt megdönteni hivatott FORRADALOM (Erdogán szóhasználatával: katonai puccs, de ez sajnos nem igaz) híre. Általános vélemény, hogy a MUBARAK MEGDÖNTÁSÁVEL kezdődő egyiptomi forgatókönyvet akarták előadni: forradalom a diktátor (bocsánat választott, de “illiberális” vezető) ellen, majd az ISZLÁM KARJAB VINNI az amúgy is közelálló, ISIS-szel bussineszező Törökországot.
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    Amerika – bárki is vezeti majd – kénytelen lesz fogcsikorgatva bár, de Erdogánt támogatni, mert ha Törökország elvész, a NATO-nak és EURÓPÁNAK – annyi.
    .
    Kérdés, meddig lehet a forró vízben lévő lábasra a fedőt rászorítani.
    Rossul mennek a dolgok a világban, gyerekek.
    A zászló AZ ISZLÁM FASIMUSNAK áll egyelőre -amit már a nevén sm illik nevezni.
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    A Krónikás

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