Hungarian Catholics and media personalities join to defend “borders of a humane society”

A petition spearheaded by a Catholic bishop, a prominent musician, two television personalities and a Catholic blogger has attracted more than 5,000 signatures in just one day. The petition was launched by Bishop Miklós Beer, musician András Hajós, TV host Alinda Veiszer, television personality Gábor Takács Gundel and the founder of the Christian Szemlélek blog, István Gégény. In this petition, the organizers write:

“Defending our borders is in all of our interest, so that we are able to monitor these frontiers, to know who is arriving and with whom we share our lives. It is, after all, in our common interest to defend the borders of a humane society. In the last few days, it is this institution that suffered an attack. If we do not respond to this, a series of self-destructive processes may take hold.”

The organizers are clearly referring to the terrible events in the town of Őcsény, where villagers fell into a paranoid frenzy and attacked the owner of a guesthouse who simply offered temporary accommodation to a small handful of refugee children on vacation in the area. They add: “In the last few days, we got a dramatic illustration of where xenophobia, misunderstandings and exaggerated passions lead. We have become a society, where at any point, the earlier principles can be replaced by aggression, sparked by a fear of the unknown and where otherwise peaceful citizens resolve conflicts using pocket knives and bricks.”

Bishop of Vác, Miklós Beer, one of the five organizers.

The petition also calls on supporters to do what they can locally to end the “reign of fear.” Without naming the Orbán government, it adds that ordinary Hungarians can be misled by half truths and propaganda–misled to the point where they attack a neighbour, whose only sin is that he wishes to lend a helping hand to people in need. This was again a clear reference to Őcsény.

The petition is an important initiative. We certainly encourage our readers to consider signing it.

17 Comments

  1. “Defending our borders is in all of our interest, so that we are able to monitor these frontiers, to know who is arriving.”

    Nothing wrong with this statement. What the statement neglects to say, is that the Orbán government has whipped up a hysteria in Hungary, against all arrivals, and first and foremost against people of color, and non-Christian beliefs.

    Orbán’s national consultations back in 2015 depicted all non-white, non-Christian refugees as undesirable enemies of Western civilization who are unwilling to work, integrate or respect Hungary’s laws. Such folks deserve no better than to be treated as animals in official parlance. Mr. Orbán said as much in his official response to the events at Öcsény.

    This is the double talk, that is spoken by Donald Trump and all similar bigots the world over. It is time the bishop and the originators call a spade a spade. Racism in Hungary does not come from the people, but from their leaders. Please put the blame where it belongs. Until you do so, I for one will not sign this petition.

    • Dear Andras. You are mistaken in thinking that it is all about “integration”. The migrants could all be model citizens and contribute to the economy. It doesn’t change the fact that the constant inflow from a region that is demographically over-flowing, coming to a continent where the local native population is shrinking due to cultural trends, will eventually lead to population, and thus ethno-cultural replacement. It is in many ways no different from the trend started over 500 years ago, which eventually led to the destruction of the native Americans. Why would any European embrace that? When Crazyhorse was hysterical about Europeans trying to settle on his people’s territory, was he “Xenophobic”??? After all, wherever Europeans showed up during that time, there was a roughly 100-fold increase in the region’s GDP.

  2. That a Hungarian Catholic leader even uses the word xenophobia is a big deal, considering how silent the church leadership has been at important junctures. Finally someone has a backbone.

  3. Robert Morrison says:

    András B. Göllner on October 8, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    “Orbán government has whipped up a hysteria in Hungary, against all arrivals, and first and foremost against people of color, and non-Christian beliefs.”

    As usually you are translating facts into your dream-world. Both President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Victor Orbán named the undesirable migrants as Muslims and not as non-Christians. It is such a shame that your sharp mind is dulled by your blind fate in the Soros doctrine that you would be willing to scarify Hungary on the altar of that international criminal’s godlessness.

    What Mr. Orbán said and keeps saying is that Hungarians as a nation have the right to self-determination and to select whom they are willing to live with and the current influx of migrants to Europe are not in that category. No one should stick their nose into the Hungarians’ business from 7,000 km even if one think so high about his intellectual superiority as you do, or possesses as much money as that garbage idol of yours have.

    Even if you are a demagogue and put forth unlimited efforts to spin reality of life, the facts are clearly proven that the subject horde you are calling ‘refugees’ show extreme level of animosity against their host countries; therefore they may reasonably declared “undesirable enemies of Western civilization who are unwilling to work, integrate or respect Hungary’s laws”.

    I would represent that your malicious falsification is that “ Such folks deserve no better than to be treated as animals in official parlance.” This is simply a lie which is so prevalent in your publications.
    For any mistreatment of said group of people the blame lay with the EU bureaucrats led by Mr. ‘Drunken Jean-Claude Juncker’ because they force Hungary to act against its will and desire. They are so stupid that they forgot the basic rule of life; every action creates a reaction. More they ‘promote’ the obligation to accept migrants more the resistance, and Öcsény is just one sign of such strengthening opposition.

    And again, you are wrong; “Racism in Hungary does not come from the people, but from their leaders.” Nobody in Hungary wants to let these nomads to infiltrate their families (even the proponents of the issue like Mr. Gyurcsany) whether by EU decree or by rape and intimidation. You wanted to call a spade a spade? Here you have it.

    “Until you do so, I for one will not sign this petition.” What makes you so full of yourself that you think anybody gives a damn about your signature on any petition. I know it is hard to accept the facts but you are a nobody in Hungary and rightfully so.

  4. Robert Morrison “no one in Hungary wants these nomads to infiltrate their families”, your racism is showing.

    I am proud to say that I am the daughter of a Hungarian Freedom Fighter. My mother is NOT Hungarian, my first husband is Muslim, second is a Spaniards. Yet go to the upcoming 1956 commemorations and you will see more of US there, those of us who appreciate Hungary because we don’t take it for granted. The Hungarian culture you cherish is dying out before your very eyes … Thanks to xenophobia and closed borders and minds. Think of all those dying falus that could be revived with fresh blood. Think of how nice it would be here to hear more people speak Hungarian … I remember seeing those videos of refugees thanking Hungarians in Hungarian, it warmed my heart.

    • Robert Morrison says:

      Gizella on October 9, 2017 at 1:04 pm

      “Robert Morrison ….. your racism is showing.”
      Yes, thank you for the confirmation and for the labelling.
      Now it is your time to explain it to me and to the others where is it written that I must accept mixed marriages into my family.

      It was your choice which I respect and solute you for, but that gives you no right to force me or my daughters to follow your example. It is called freedom of choice!

      Your labelling have no effect on me, but shows that you are angry and perhaps ashamed of your past choices. Enjoy your culture that you think is superior over ” The Hungarian culture I cherish”.

  5. Albrecht Neumerker says:

    @Morrison

    I propose 200 000 immigrants yearly to be let set down in Hungary. Our organisation is now preparing for to achieve our goal.

    • Robert Morrison says:

      Albrecht Neumerker on October 11, 2017 at 6:10 am

      No doubt about your intentions. I believe every word you wrote. The only info I am missing is the name of your organization. However as I foresee the potential result of your plan if successfully executed it is easy to figure it out. You must be a leading figure in the SA or the SS as both had the same goal; getting rid of the Jewish fate and race.
      However at this time Hungary will not be a partner in your efforts and the Hungarian Jewish community is also more prepared to fend ourselves to assure our survival and the to defend the European Judeo-Christen culture for our future generations.

  6. Stranded in Sopron says:

    “No one should stick their nose into the Hungarians’ business ”

    Ok, if not prepared to live by the rules of the EU, the Orban regime should leave it….easy solution, no?

    Brussels (and the taxpayers in the rest of the EU) would breathe a huge sigh of relief at the thought that Orban will no longer be holding out the begging bowl in one hand and the dagger in the other.

    • Robert Morrison says:

      Stranded in Sopron on October 11, 2017 at 6:42 pm

      I understand that liberals see Orbán as a bagger with request, but if you just for moment elevate yourself above your partisanship and look at the problem with open eyes and open minds, … no I guess this is too much to ask.

      I am still waiting for somebody to provide a sensible explanation what rights does George Soros have to stick his nose into the EU and it’s members affairs? And why is he welcomed in Brussels in a higher respect as a never elected anything representing nobody than any Prime Minister of the EU member states. And further more what interest the EU bureaucracy have to implement his plan? Who is pushing the interest of whom in the EU?

  7. Bandi, angolul is undorito vagy. Tudod, a hazugsagaid…

    • Robert Morrison says:

      Amusing how quickly liberals run for the exit when they are called to factual debates. What happened with Gizella and Albrecht Neumerker, not to mention Stranded in Sopron? Lost your facts book or incapable to explain your superior ideology?

    • Robert M

      Debate you about what? The “Soros plan” or the flying saucers?
      Try first to prove their existence. Or at least read the Soros articles.

      Re the Plan – it is true, but you have probably misheard the rumors –
      it is not a Soros, but a Mèszaros plan, and
      it is not about settling millions in Hungary, but about stealing millions from Hungary and
      not every year, but every day.

  8. The Orban regime may reasonably be declared “undesirable enemy of Western civilization who is unwilling to work, integrate or respect Hungary’s laws”
    to use the deplorable Robert M’s words.

  9. @ Trolls (Miklos, Morrison, Neumerker)

    The reason why no one engages any of you seriously or answers your questions is because, you are part of the problem rather than the solution. Morrison, you are a hard worker. If you give out your real name and address to our editors, we’ll send you a nice bone to chew on. I’ll load it with marrow, just for you. Miklóskám. I see you still have not been able to find the key to proper punctuation. This is an English language portal, I know you miss me terribly from the Hungarian pages of the HFP, but try not to let it get you down too much. I’ve given you a few choice morsels to swallow this morn’ – hop to it. 🙂

  10. Robert Morrison says:

    András B. Göllner October 18, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    “The reason why no one engages any of you seriously or answers your questions is because…”
    …. all of you are pushing an issue that you cannot debate without throwing insults and intimidating labels that do not stick here; therefore you are hopeless. The only option you have keeping low profile when you find your intellectual match on the other side of the trench. So sad, so sad. “but try not to let it get you down too much.”

  11. @ Morrison

    ” So sad, so sad”

    Please give credit to Mr. Trump when you quote from one of his Tweets. After you’ve done that, please come back Mr. Know It All, and tell us what do you get if you take the “F” out of “Bread”.

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