Viktor Orbán will disregard referendum result — Announces immediate constitutional amendment

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán announced after his anti-migrant referendum was declared invalid by the National Election Office that he intends to disregard the result and will bring forward a proposal to amend Hungary’s constitution. Mr. Orbán’s proposed constitutional amendment is “borrowed” directly and explicitly from Jobbik’s platform. The far-right party and its leader spent the entire referendum campaign criticising Fidesz for going ahead with a costly referendum, where the end result was far from guaranteed, and when it could have simply amended the constitution to declare all EU-sanctioned mandatory “settlements” of refugees or migrants in Hungary as unconstitutional. After the Sunday evening referendum defeat–where 60% of Hungarians either boycotted the vote, stayed home or spoiled their ballot–Mr. Orbán declared that he will implement Jobbik’s proposal.

“Our weapon will be powerful, even in Brussels,” announced Mr. Orbán, after he declared that the invalid anti-migrant referendum was “an overwhelming victory.”

“The question before us was: Brussels or Budapest?”–said Mr. Orbán during his referendum night speech, and he believes that Hungarians voted for Budapest instead of Brussels. “It will be a long road, with many difficult battles,” he added. It is very telling that all journalists were banned from being present for Mr. Orbán’s speech. Only a few cameramen and technicians, as well as party functionaries were allowed in. All journalists were forced to watch the speech from a screen, in a separate room.

Viktor Orbán speaks after his referendum was declared invalid by the National Election Office.

Viktor Orbán speaks after his referendum was declared invalid by the National Election Office.

If Mr. Orbán accepts verbatim Jobbik’s proposal, the constitutional amendment will sound like this:

“Only Parliament can decide on the short-term or long-term settlement of citizens of third countries in Hungary.”

This is the proposal initially put forward by Jobbik politicians.

As the 444.hu website notes,  this is not the first time that Fidesz “borrows” ideas directly from Jobbik’s platform. In the past, Fidesz declared the anniversary of the Treaty of Trianon–when Hungary lost two thirds of its land to successor states after World War II–as a day of national remembrance. The ruling party also removed a statue to former Prime Minister of Hungary Mihály Károlyi, who led a short-lived socialdemocratic government in 1918/19, next to Parliament–an idea first floated by Jobbik.

Meanwhile Gábor Vona, President of Jobbik, has demanded that Mr. Orbán resign as prime minister.

“The prime minister can say what he wants, but the EU will emphasise only one thing, namely that the Hungarian referendum is invalid. This is a massive defeat…They should not try to explain away this result. They should not try to point the finger at others. They should not deflect responsibility. They must admit  that the unsuccessful referendum is their defeat. In this situation, the prime minister can do nothing else, but he must resign, as the prime minister responsible for initiating this referendum in the first place. This invalid referendum is not a message to Brussels, but rather to Viktor Orbán”–declared Mr. Vona, in his election night speech.

If the European Union needs anymore evidence that Hungary is not a democracy, then here is one more example of how little the democratic will of the people is actually worth–when it goes against the regime.

20 Comments

  1. Of courese he does this, the whole thing was useless and unnecessary, that’s what i wrote in many of my previous posts. Even in case of success it is only good for nothing else than proving he has offered a democratic solution. He offered it, people didn’t take a chance, didn’t live with their democratic rights, they are not interested in their own life, their own future, their own democratic life. People like that deserve nothing.

    If they took all their democratic rights and a good 60% had said yes to the quotas and yest to the migrant invasion, then it would have been a defeat for Orban. They spoiled the ballots they stayed at home, they proved they understand nothing, the referendum the offered democratic solution has failed, now it’s the PM duty and responsibility to act and do the right thing, like the Austrians and the other countries that wanna survive.

  2. Why is it the responsibility of any European country to give these “refugees”(most are economic refugees) a better life? Europe has nothing to gain by letting or bringing these people in. Europe, your first and last obligation is to your people. What do the “refugees” have to offer? They bring nothing to the table. Europeans first in Europe, not last.

    Why don’t muslim “asylum seekers” go to Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates , Oman, Saudi Arabia or any of the other rich muslim countries? These are Islamic countries therefore more suitable for them.

    Has there ever been a European country that benefited by opening it’s borders to non-Europeans? If so, name it. Do they make Europe a safer place to live? Have they made Europe great? Are they good for tourism? Do they bring anything positive to Europe? Do they respect the citizens of Europe and the customs? Do they support themselves without burdening the tax payers? Do they burden the judicial system due to high crime rates? Do they love Europe or what they can get from her?

    Do they victimize the European people in large proportions to their small numbers? Wouldn’t crimes against the European people foreshadow their true intentions? Do they trash up the areas they inhabit in Europe? If they victimize the host country’s people and trash up their land after they have been given a new start at life, wouldn’t that be like a direct “screw you”? Do they demand you to change your ways and customs so they can tolerate you? Do they respect the peoples government? Your family? Your people? Your culture?

    If they are guilty of only three of these questions then It would be safe to say they should not be in Europe. There is more harm than good for Europe and her people.

    This day and time patriots are labeled as neo-Nazi, it’s a matter of time before the soldiers of today face Nuremberg type trials. If a European country don’t let the foreign hoards flood their land they are called “far right” “racist” “Nazis” and “xenophobic”. 

    If they let them in, their country, their lives, their descendants lives will be torn apart. Which one is easier to live with? Which one does the most damage? Which choice is beneficial to the European country and it’s people? Hint: A name will not destroy a country and it’s people. Europe, wake up and take stand before it’s too late and you lose everything.

    • James,

      You have a lot of valid points, but you miss some important ones, e.g.

      To name a European country that benefited by (being conquered) by non-Europeans? OK:
      – Iberian peninsula/Spain 7th -12th c. by Moores and Jews,
      – Low Countries/Netherlands 15-17 century by accepting many other enterprising people,
      – German lands 16th v. by receiving Huguenot French,
      – Arguably many colonial processions, including North America, although these are not European examples.

      Most of the arrivals are refugees in genuine need of temporary shelter and aid. Think 350 000+ Hungarians in 1946-49 and 1956.

      There were Nazis and fascists in Europe long before we heard the word migrant. The hysteric members of the PC brigade probably abuse the terms, but the hate mongering fascists are here, e.g. they are ruling Hungary.

      ” Europe your first and last obligation is to your people.”
      First yes, but not last – there are these humanitarian things, e.g. the Eastern European countries’ cohesion aid worth hundreds of billions of Euros.

      • ” – Iberian peninsula/Spain 7th -12th c. by Moores and Jews,”

        Spaniards fought the invaders for centuries, in the end they won and expelled the ennemies of the chritiandom from Western Europe. So it’s show how much like liked and benefited from an alien invasion, they enjoyed this conquest so much they fought against it until the 15th century

        ” – Low Countries/Netherlands 15-17 century by accepting many other enterprising people,”

        These people they accepted were europeans…

        ” – German lands 16th v. by receiving Huguenot French,”

        Hugenot french were europeans…

        ” – Arguably many colonial processions, including North America, although these are not European examples. ”

        They also were europeans…

        “Think 350 000+ Hungarians in 1946-49 and 1956.”

        Also europeans immigrating into european countries…

        It’s quite telling that you can’t justify non european immigration in another way than talking about EUROPEAN immigration into other european countries, it only mean you don’t have any valid argument to justify your multicultural delusions.

        ” First yes, but not last – there are these humanitarian things, e.g. the Eastern European countries’ cohesion aid worth hundreds of billions of Euros.”

        Nope, a country only mission is to care about it’s people not some random foreigners because a leftist ideology told so. A governement is appointed to defend a country interests not to protect the so called “””human rights””” nor to accept illegal aliens, a governement isn’t an NGO deal with it.

        The cohesion aid to eastern european countries is another matter completely, your inability to make a difference show how relevant your stance is…

        The cohesion aid isn’t about humanitarian baby cry but it’s a pure political move, it’s about helping allied countries and improving their economies in order to increase the trade between western and eastern Europe.

        Beside as a frenchman I prefer my politicians to pump money into places like Moldavia or Serbia than to accept illegal aliens who will turn my neigbourghood into a Middle Eastern hellhoe, eastern Europe is part of Europe so it’s more legtimate to help them rather than the Third World.

        The only refugees with a legtimate reason to be let in are Ukrainians, white South Africans( like every other person of european origin) and christians from Irak or Syria( not the opportunist converts but those ones whose famillies are christians since the very begining), the others have the rest of the world to help them.

  3. One more thought about this.

    The first time I was supportive here seeing the opposition attacked Orban for jeopardizing democracy, looting the country and spreading hatred for his own benefit. But I was disappointed not only because the opposition only wanted to overkill him and could not offer any better solution, not only because they use the same tool a fanatic hatred and overheated rhetoric but because they were hoping for help from the EU.

    The EU? Why the EU didn’t act? Because they are the same, because a raven does not pick out raven’s eye. Does the opposition know this? Of course they do, yet the wanted to set the EU on Orban to remove him. Now the opposition disappointed me more. They didn’t seem to understand that the real reason the EU is not taking the trouble to kill off Orban is not only because they are the same but because they have a bigger plan, a plan to kill off Orban together with Hungary, the whole country, what’s more together with the whole European population the whole white ethnic group and they won’t waste their time and risk their success by picking on one leader when they are going for overkill – everybody.

    That’s the point where Orban came to understand the name of the game that he only can survive if Hungary survive.

    Now, the opposition that attacked Orban righteously for his wrongdoing without success for they were unable to get help from the EU, realized the master plan of destruction through the Islamization of a Christian populace of Europe and is attacking Orban unfairly for his good action as this is the point where they can get the long hoped help from the EU. What is their main purpose? Only to remove Orban at any price or be an active participant of the Islamization of Europe? Eurabia?

  4. How is he disregarding the vote if the vast majority of voters said no?
    Are you guys at Hungarian Free Press living on another planet, or is George Soros money milking your brains dry?

    Those who didn’t participate gave up their right to decide, not that the Yes people ever had a shot to begin with. The Yes people have only single digit support, so how on earth did they think they could win this election?

    They boycotted because they knew they would lose, and they did big time. You guys failed. Most people who stay away didn’t stay away because of your boycott, but because they’ve always been disinterested in politics. Your boycott influence maybe a few % of eligible voters at best.

    You people here have a weird interpretation of democracy, where barely 1% of support somehow equals a win. In any normal country, with normal elections 43% is low, but is also acceptable.

    You lost get over it.

    • Zsolt,

      I don’t know what’s wrong with your brain, perhaps you’ve been consuming too much Orban rizsa, .. yeah, most likely.

      Anyway, I can’t remedy your intellectual development here, but here is the short answer re what is Orban doing now.

      Orban is derogating the rule of law again, his own law at that. The referendum was invalid and unsuccessful. The people were called upon to express their will in accordance with the provisions of the law and the majority did not support this idea.
      The reference to the 3.3 million supporters is entirely frivolous – what if they were less than 3, what if they were 2, or 1? Orban has no right to act upon any number of his choice, if he does act on the matter regardless it will be illegal and another proof of dictatorship in Hungary today.

      • Observer, you should use your brain yourself…

        Firstpoint, last time elections were held Fidesz and Jobbik had 65% of the vote… So that mean half of their voters didn’t turned out, which suggest that claims of the left that 60% of the voters support them are completly fake, your kind has less than 30% of support anywhere in Eastern Europe.

        Second point, every refernda had a very low turn out, at most 48% of voters cast a vote, so this one isn’t an exception.

        Third point, at least 35-40% of people don’t vote at any elections at all because they don’t care about democray.

        Forth point, if hungarian were in favor of immigration they would have voted in favor of the quotas… Which obviously didn’t happen…

        And Finally if the left ever thought to have any chances of winning this vote they would have asked their voters to vote in favor of the quotas, a thing that didn’t happen, they prefered to say they were against these quotas( the fear of being even more irrelevant than now, must be strong) and they didn’t even campaigned in favor of immigration because they were sure to lose, so the simply fled as rats and hide among non voters.

        Mate, you should really accept the fact that nobody want immigrants because denial won’t help you, people don’t want multiculturalism neither they want diversity or immigration, the sooner you will accept this fact the sooner you will feel better.

        So non, the hungarian governement has every right to pass a law about it because no majority rejected his stance about immigration.

  5. The people who didn’t vote did so in protest. It wasn’t a lack of will, the only way to win this referendum was to make it invalid. 60 million dollars wasted, free food for a “no” vote, and threatening mayors who didn’t mobilize their town to vote, and he couldn’t even get a valid referendum. The majority of voters was always going to be no because it was a stupid question that smart people would see as pointless, so instead of having a valid no, those who were protesting did the smart thing and didn’t give a proper answer to a ridiculous question and made Orban look foolish in the process. The government can spin it however they want but in the end its an embarrassing defeat. EU is probably laughing at Orban as we speak.

    • LOL no, people didn’t vote about it because they already knew the results( an overwhelming majority would vote AGAINST immigration) and they didn’t wanted to wast their time voting about it, also you should know that referenda always have a very low turn out especially in eastern Europe( no referenda in Hungary ever had more than 48% of voters since the last 15 years), any people with a bit of knowledge about european voting habits would know that even in countries like Switzerland it’s very rare that the turn out for a referenda is bigger than 42-47%.

      You can delude yourself as much you want but that won’t change the fact that people don’t want immigration at all.

      You are right about one thing, the question was stupid because everybody knew the answer to it, so most people didn’t bother to go to vote because it was so obvious to them that nobody wanted immigration so they wondered why the governement organised a referenda about it instead of making a law.

  6. I find the comments very interesting as a British and American.
    Does this mean that the vast amount of Hungarians who have benefited from being able to leave there increasingly impoverished people, who seek to live in other EU countries be sent back to Hungary?

    Does it also mean that those Hungary who is a net beneficiary from EU by the amount contributed by the UK, France & Germany , should if they defy the EU rules which they SIGNED UP FOR, STOP GETTING MONEY FROM THE EU?

    I’m amazed, maybe when they cut the funding of E.U. Grants to the Hungarians, they’ll be more realistic.
    The fact that I’m also told from a reliable source that Orban Viktor has embezzled millions of E.U. grants it might make the leadership think again.

  7. Nathan Barley says:

    Hungary, I cry in my beer for you. You have had this golden chance to slap down the leftest-liberal idiocy spouted by idealist imbeciles such as “mad” Merkel and Soros but couldn`t get out of bed to vote. If it was a 48 or 49% we could blame the corrupt machinations of the “elite” at play, but really, with such a low turn out Hungary will deserve its forthcoming cultural enrichments, mosques and halal. Don`t say you were not warned. The only patriot is Viktor Orban and i hope he just bulldozes policy through.

    • Geza, Barna, or whatever is your real name,

      Stay with your beer, add a sausage (careful with the catch-up on your brown shirt) and don’t venture in the unknown land of intellectual discourse.

      • Observer, be careful about what you write on the internet, in 2014 the brown shirts as you call them had something like 65% of support, next time it won’t be different maybe Fidesz will have less voters and Jobbik more but things won’t be really different because the average folk despise the left side.

        I laugh when Ferenc Gyurcsány said that most hungarian supported his ass because he is the most hated person in all Hungary and people didn’t forget his trecherous actions. He will be really astonished when he will see how much people loath his kind next elections…

  8. ‘Totally unrealistic’: Austrian FM blasts EU refugee quota plan

    The plan on refugee quotas imposed by the EU is “totally unrealistic,” says Austrian Foreign Minister Sebastian Kurz. He adds that migrants are not eager to stay in such European countries as Romania , Hungary or Poland, preferring Austria or Germany.

    Kurz was speaking right ahead of Hungary’s referendum on EU refugee quotas. A few hours after his interview was released in German media, 98.3 percent of Hungarian voters who took part in the referendum rejected mandatory EU asylum seeker quotas.

    Only 1.7 percent of the voters answered ‘Yes’ to the question “Do you want the European Union to be able to mandate the obligatory resettlement of non-Hungarian citizens into Hungary even without the approval of the National Assembly?”

    But the turnout of 43.8 percent, or 3.6 million voters, meant that the referendum was declared invalid, as it failed to clear the key 50-percent threshold.

    In September, Vienna even threatened Hungary with “legal consequences” if it refuses to take back refugees under the Dublin Accord – the treaty which rules that migrants must be sent back to their initial point of entry to the EU.

    https://www.rt.com/news/361434-austria-migrant-quotas-unrealistic/

  9. Hungary Referendum: EU Humiliated as 95 Percent Say NO to Migrant Quotas

    Hungarian Prime minister Viktor Orban has delivered a huge blow to the European Union after 95 per cent of the Hungarian public soundly rejected EU migrant redistribution plans.

    However, the victory could be bittersweet for the Hungarian leader as voter apathy led to a low turnout. Many of the opposition parties have told their followers and supporters to either invalidate their ballots or simply not vote at all.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/02/hungary-referendum-95-percent-no-5-percent-yes/

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  11. Opposition parties were telling people to either spoil their ballot or not show up. The idea was a stupid question doesn’t deserve a valid answer. In this case, the majority followed the opposition and the referendum was invalid. The EC thanked Hungarians today for not validating the vote and said they took note that it was invalid. In other referendums, both sides are campaigning for everyone to vote one way or another. I’m not surprised you can’t tell the difference though

    • Oppositions parties told peole to spoil their ballots or not show up because they knew it wasn’t a fight they could possible win, they also knew that less than 48% of voters would show up to this referenda since it is the case for at least 15 years for every referenda, so instead of fighting the honorable way they fled like rats and asked the few supporters they had to hide among non voters so they could claim victory… As everybody knew it the left have no honor, they are cowards who can’t even defend their own opinions by themselves.

      The problem is that this trick don’t hide the fact that people are opposed to immigration nor the fact that the oppositions parties won’t win next elections( the funny thing is that even Jobbik have more probabilities to win next elections than leftists).

      The EC can claim what it want nobody care about them, if people in Hungary ever wanted to welcome the so called refugees in their country they would have voted in favor of it but since they didn’t do it the pro immigration fringe groups can only be silent because no sane hungarian support them.

      The good people of Hungary like all others europeans don’t want immigration and lolberals won’t change this fact.

      • I only can second that. Opposition parties told people to spoil their ballots or not show up because they are preaching about democracy but they either have no idea about it or are breaching it.

        Elections, referendums are all democratic achievements, and people have their right to say no or yes. To fight against the government by telling people to vote with “no” and explain why — is democratic.

        To talk people off to live with their democratic rights, and to tell people to spoil and destroy official government documents is against democracy and is a ripping them off their most basic human and democratic rights.

        When they have no explanation and argument why it is beneficiary for them to vote with no, i.e. to face with Islam settling of the leftover of worse human qualities from Germany and a hostile religion then they trick the voters into passive resistance.

        Shame, shame shame, and I hope that manipulating people into giving up their democratic rights one day will be declared a crime together with hate speech and will be punishable with prison terms.

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