Mandiner.hu and Zsolt Bayer’s genocidal hate speech

I have written about Zsolt Bayer before in the HFP. Our readers may recall that he is a co-founder of the ruling Fidesz party and a prominent pro-Orbán publicist who recently asserted that the Syrian refugee crisis was a manufactured racial war, launched by “invisible hands,” in order to exterminate white people. I did not think that Mr. Bayer could stoop any lower, at least not without Hungary’s ruling party finally distancing itself from this foul-mouthed, virulent racist. But a recent profanity-laced blog post by Mr. Bayer proved me wrong. I won’t translate for you the expletives and the series of four-letter words that he used to describe refugees in Europe, and which he employed to emphasize the fact that he wants to see them removed from the continent as quickly as possible. But I will highlight a few key points.

In his post, Mr. Bayer refers to the refugees as “flies at a farmers’ market” and then states that there is nothing human about them. Here, I will quote the publicist directly:

“Who do you think you are? Who the hell invited you here to begin with? And if you have already intruded here, on what grounds can you have demands? You are intolerable and shameless, like a fly at a farmer’s market. You have no humility, no gratefulness and you have no humanity. Do you really think that anyone in Europe is obliged to tolerate you? Your very existence is increasingly unbearable and irritating.”

Mr. Bayer then tells the refugees to “go home to your camel shit infested homeland.”

Zsolt Bayer is one of the most vile, openly racist publicists in Hungary. And he is not associated with Jobbik. Mr. Bayer is not only a founder of the ruling Fidesz party, but also a close friend of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.

Zsolt Bayer is one of the most vile, openly racist publicists in Hungary. And he is not associated with Jobbik. Mr. Bayer is not only a founder of the ruling Fidesz party, but also a close friend of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.

As I alluded to earlier, I have decided not to translate the most profanity-laced parts of Mr. Bayer’s rant. But the generally moderate conservative Mandiner.hu news site had no qualms re-publishing the most offensive sections of Mr. Bayer’s diatribe, in which he overtly dehumanizes the refugees and makes the case for why genocide might be understandable. In fact, Mandiner.hu republished the blog post and highlighted the most egregious parts of Mr. Bayer’s hate speech, by inserting these words into the title. The young editors of Mandiner, Ákos Gergely Balog and Gellért Rajcsányi, thought it appropriate to simply reprint and distribute Mr. Bayer’s work verbatim, without any comment or condemnation on their part.

To be sure, we can’t bury our heads in the sand when influential pro-government publicists and essayists like Zsolt Bayer publish the sort of hate speech that one would be hard-pressed to find even in Jobbik circles. Mr. Bayer is not a marginal player in Hungarian politics and political discourse. He is one of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s confidants, and the government has never once distanced itself from the publicist’s overtly racist columns. We need to read him, analyze his language of hate and then ask ourselves why so many in the West still think that Jobbik represents the fascist boogeyman, while Mr. Orbán’s government is an acceptable partner, with which we should engage in dialogue.

As a more moderate voice of Hungarian conservatism — and one that has been critical, at times, of the Orbán government — it is wholly irresponsible of Mandiner to re-publish verbatim, popularize and perhaps unwittingly normalize Mr. Bayer’s genocidal thoughts. Publishing these reprehensible words without rebuke or comment inserts them into the stream of acceptable public discourse, and it poisons that already polluted stream even further.

The majority of the nearly 700 comments that appeared under the re-print of the Bayer piece on the Mandiner site seemed to acknowledge that the author was, perchance, a little rough in how he expressed himself, but that he spoke “the truth,” nonetheless, about the refugees.

In the past, Mr. Bayer referred to Gypsies as animals, in an article entitled “Who should not exist.” Today, he adds refugees to the list of people who should not be permitted to exist, who are nothing but insects arriving from “shit-infested” countries, and whose lives are nothing more than an annoyance that Europeans should not be expected to tolerate. And moderate conservative editors like Ákos Gergely Balogh or Gellért Rajcsányi have nothing at all to say about this, other than to share these words as widely as possible.

This reminds me of what Stanford psychologist Philip Zimbardo argued in his work, The Lucifer Effect:

“Dehumanization is like a ‘cortical cataract’ that clouds one’s thinking and fosters the perception that other people are less than human. It makes some people come to see those others as enemies deserving of torment, torture, and even annihilation…The process begins with stereotyped conceptions of the other, dehumanized perceptions of the other, the other as worthless, the other as all-powerful, the other as demonic, the other as an abstract monster, the other as a fundamental threat to our cherished values and beliefs. With public fear notched up and enemy threat imminent, reasonable people act irrationally, independent people act in mindless conformity, and peaceful people act as warriors.”

In the Fidesz publicist’s widely circulated piece, human beings are described as insects not worthy of existence and this is happening in the same year that Hungary’s government organized a series of disingenuous Holocaust commemorations around the world. The vast majority of Hungarian society was completely desensitized to the deportation and ultimate murder of 600,000 Jews, because at the time, Jews were also a nuisance and had no right to exist. The Zsolt Bayers of the day were just as insidious as the Mr. Bayers of 2015.

23 Comments

  1. Mr Bayer is nevertheless truthful in what he says- yes, it’s refugees will really destroy white race, yes it is a conspiracy of many muslim countries to take over europe. They will even completely destroy white race by miscegenation with “recessive white race” Blacks, Arabs, Asians, Muslims have an uncontrollable urge and longing to have sex with beautiful white girls and women. Caliph Angela Merkel has destroyed Germany and wants to destroy rest of europe by distributing refugees all over Europe. Holland and Germany are irretrievably lost to Muslims- hence Hollande and Merkel want to destroy the rest of Europe too. European Union is death trap to european countries that want to save it’s white race, culture and country. Mr Bayer and Mr Orban are great patriots who understand this conspiracy to destroy Europe and vehenmently want to save their country and people.

    • The rape thing is very serious, they act like an army of conquerors in wars. Invading the defeated….and …. rape. That has always been a demonstration of power and victory over the defeated. A complete humiliation which also serves as an encouraging event fort the winner for further advancing.

      There are many cases of rapes committed by the migrants against their very own humanitarian activists. Sadly, the organized people smuggler crime-syndicates manage to keep these sad events unpublished. Yet, sometimes they cannot as it happened in a rape case in a migrant camp on the France-Italy border. The link I’m giving now contains more links to La Stampa and Correiere Della Sera who first took the courage to break the silence. Thanks God. Thanks for the free press who has the courage.

      From my chair all I can say is, that rape is a crime and helping the criminals by silencing the victim, as it happened in her case, is not less than complicity in a crime and all I can hope is, that all her fellow activists who forced her to be silent would find they way to the court for felony of complicity in a crime.

      This piece will give the necessary links to the Italian papers.

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-migrants-pressured-silence-not-damage-cause/

  2. Charlie London says:

    Exactly right, Chris.

    With views like this, truly believed, it is easy to understand how Hungary was able to assist so assiduously in The Holocaust.

    It also explains how Hungary can treat 10% of its fellow Hungarians so badly – and enshrine such discrimination into its laws, culture and society. As the RC church stands idly by.

    Orban allows Bayer the oxygen of publicity, when in democratic societies he would be under investigation for hate speech.

    (Hungary is no democracy because it is a commocracy, changing its constitution like dirty underwear.)

    This is the so-called ‘free’ speech that some in Hungary – and on here admire.

    Eh? Erzsebet Pall?

  3. It’s a very good idea to keep the Muslim migrants away as they will totally destroy Europe and Hungary, but speaking about how to save Hungary I don’t think it’s enough to get rid of the Muslim migrants, it needs more. It needs to keep the country strong, capable, and prosperous, it needs to keep the educated Hungarian youth in the country. But, more than half million has left their homeland.

    What sense does it make to keep the enemy at bay when we are losing the bests of our own sons and daughters. One day Mr. Bayer might be equally outspoken about it when discussing our national security.
    Same issue — migration.

    • A very shocking video, thank you for bringing it to us. Yet, nothing new for me, as I have lived in Muslim countries and in Africa and can confirm they are not humans. They are animals. A few days ago we had another poster from India, who said the same thing and warned about this problem – having direct experience with Muslims.

      It’s good that CNTV actually had the courage to speak out. It’s a terrible responsibility of the mass media and the press to correctly inform the people about a simple thing, it’s war and we are going to die. As I wrote earlier the invasion of Europe is a highly organized project based and developed upon the Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi plan to destroy Europe, and it is full blown now.

      Even if it could be halted right now, the deportation of the Muslims from Europe at the rate of 6000 a day would take more than two years and another 80 years for Europe to get their feet back after the damage.

      But, the diseases mentioned in the video are already there and Europe has gone. Not just Europe. Yes the US, Canada and many other civilized countries, too. Considering the large number of travelers through air transport, the free sex etc. it won’t take more than a year until the whole civilized world will get taste of this terrible organized destruction of the civilized societies.

  4. Mr. Christopher Adam spoke about Zsolt Bayer’s hate-speech. What if I say: Mr. Christopher Adam’s words are hate-speech too… against Zsolt Bayer, against the Orban government, against the hungarian people who voted to Fidesz.

    Europe was built by the european people. They made it for themselves – like everybody do (in the USA too). Why do muslim people (anybody) think they have the right to enjoy the fruits of somebody else’s work?

    • Charlie London says:

      Europe was built by the european people. They made it for themselves…”

      Yep.

      To keep out schitt like you.

      Why do you bother this blog?

      You’d much prefer kuruc.hu…..or maybe you’re just an onanist masochist like Richard?

      • Charlie, are you talking about me in a reply to someone else? Just keep it down!

        “Kuruc. hu. schitt, onanist, mazochist”.

        I see you are trying to keep Chris’ blog clean with filthy remarks. Yes?

        I certainly understand you are only doing what your education, family background, your very basic nature and intellect allow you to do and say, you even afford to kick in Erzsebet Pall who didn’t even post in this thread, but please try to behave in a civilized manner if it is possible for you at all.

        I understand what a terrible irritation for you that others dare disagree or post messages you don’t like but your black list of posters is getting bigger every day. Don’t you think you are going too far with your voluntary patrolling around here?

        Charlie, discussion boards don’t need overexcited vigilantes. Please poor your frustrated anger on somebody’s neck, maybe someone among your own family members or anybody close toy you and try to comment the point. Got it?

      • Are you a dictator? If you are liberal, you have to tolerate anybody’s opinion. The world consits of many many different people with many many different opinions. It is very nice to get to know how other people see the world, is not it?

  5. Charlie London…the voice of your last comment says it all about you…you have no real argument, you are only able to insult other people. So your comments should be totally ignored…
    And: there is no relation to Holocaust and the present situation at all…furthermore if you would care just one bit for the Jewish people of today, you would like to protect them from Muslims, as it is pretty well known, that Muslims usually consider Jews as enemy (respect for the exception)…so are you in fact a antisemitic hater?
    And about democracy: in a real democracy nobody should be prosecuted for hate speech…as this clearly opposes the freedom of expression and speech. Freedom, you know, means freedom…not censorship and unequal rights…it is okay, for you to speak with hatred about Hungarian people, but it is not okay for Mr. Bayer to speak with hatred about Muslims? You are the perfect example of the double standards of liberalism…But your time is over. People are not that stupid, as you liberals thought. You lack logic, and anything you say can be used against you, in another context.

    • Charlie London says:

      Rebecca?

      The connection between the circumstances now and the Holocaust are very understandable. It has been connected by many commentators in the UK’s (free) press.

      Including the Austrian ambassador.

      It is certainly justified using the language of the gutter in a piece about Szolt Bayer – who only understands this type of rhetoric – including the racist xenophobic prolix contributors Pilot & ‘Richard’.

      In a free-press environment it is not ‘free-speech’ which enables you to say what you like. You misunderstand. You still have to obey the law and hate speech is proscribed.

      You can’t shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre as a prank one of our judges observed.

      If you are Hungarian then you are probably confused about a free press.

      ‘Free’ in this context means free from government interference. In the UK we have a free press. We have good press and bad press. But it is free of government interference – have a look how the C P Scott Trust operates The Guardian.

      In Hungary you don’t have a free press. In addition most media regurgitate MTI’s output.

      Most Hungarians don’t understand this and in my experience, don’t care. As witnessed by some posters on here – yourself included.

      In the UK we treat people as people and don’t make any differentiation between Moslems, Jews, Blacks, Asians etc.

      We are proud of our multicultural society and are shocked, for example, how you treat 10% of your fellow Hungarians – those Hungarians of Roma origin.

      Accusing me of being racist is your problem.

      Finally we recently had some Hungarian friends stay with us. They were amazed how friendly, happy and helpful everyone is here compared with home. Their perception, not mine.

      In addition my partner’s son is working here and he said the same thing after a trip back home. His perception not mine. He also said he doesn’t want to return.

      Hope you understand a little better about how corrupt and unhappy life is under Orban.

      • Charlie London says:

        And btw – most Moslems; most Jews; most Blacks; most Asians; most migrants; most refugees; most Caucasians; most men; most women; most HFP readers; and most people on this wonderful planet called Earth – want to live in peace and harmony.

        Only a tiny tiny proportion think otherwise.

        Unfortunately many are Hungarian contributors on here.

        • Mr. London,

          as usually you are talking nonsense as always when you need to answer essential questions of other posters. You really do you best to keep the level of discussion as low as possible with your constant effort for dominance .

          Yet, you just couldn’t answer my question how comes that while Mr. Bayer only speaks about refusal of migrants, Britain actually implements his idea. Please give your IQ a free flow and explain this video.
          BTW. Rebekka is right. now here’s the video.

  6. Why is it the responsibility of any European country to give these “refugees”(most are economic refugees) a better life. Europe has nothing to gain by letting or bringing these people in. Europe, your first and last obligation is to your people. What do the “refugees” have to offer? They bring nothing to the table.

    Why don’t muslim “asylum seekers” go to Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates , Oman, Saudi Arabia or any of the other rich muslim countries? These are Islamic countries therefore more suitable for them.

    Has any European country benefited by opening it’s borders to non-Europeans? Name one. Do they make Europe a safer place to live? Have they made Europe great? Are they good for tourism? Do they bring anything positive to Europe? Do they respect the citizens of Europe and the customs? Do they support themselves without burdening the tax payers? Do they burden the judicial system due to high crime rates? Do they love Europe or what they can get from her?

    Do they victimize the European people in large proportions to their small numbers? Wouldn’t crimes against the European people foreshadow their true intentions? Do they trash up the areas they inhabit in Europe? If they victimize the host country’s people and trash up their land after they have been given a new start at life, wouldn’t that be like a direct “screw you”? Do they demand you to change your ways and customs so they can tolerate you? Do they respect the peoples government? Your family? Your people? Your culture?

    If they are guilty of three of these questions then It would be safe to say they should not be in Europe. There is more harm than good for Europe and her people.

    If a European country don’t let the hoards flood their land they are called “racist” and “Nazis” if they let them in, their country, their lives, their descendants lives will be torn apart. Which one is easier to live with? Which one does the most damage? Which choice is beneficial to the European country and it’s people? Wake up before it’s too late.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYgubuuD7Vk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN5iJNQiYzU

  7. Charlie boy, are you still at your nerves? Feeling better?

    A little help for you, as you might want to talk to “London”,– you are London aren’t you? Also this video might be helpful for your you too speak about the point instead of blaspheming other posters.

    “Britain has offered to take ZERO.” Now, go home to London and do something there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDd45T98FCs

    The Guardian

  8. One more thing in addition to my previous post on Mr. Bayer’s approach to the migration crisis. I think it’s important.

    Before that, once again, although his manner is unacceptable I agree with him concerning the Muslim and African migrants to Europe.

    But!!!!!!!!…….But!!!!!

    I checked some statistic. I remember, some years ago I read many articles in Chinese and mostly in Japanese newspapers about migration to China. Most of the migrants to China were from Germany and from Japan. All of them highly qualified engineers. China needed engineers mostly for developing her technology. I do not now how reliable the figures were for German migrants, there were some 20 000 but for Japan the figures were reliable and from Japan around 56 000 highly qualified engineers left for China. From Japan mainly from shipyards, and related technology.
    China also managed to seduce many high quality computer engineers from India.

    The Chinese granted permanent or temporary residence and working permission for them in two days in a highly organized manner.

    The figures — 56 000 engineers — in Japan created quite a steer and whistle blowers pleaded for help to halt the migration and losing qualified engineers in such great number. In such great number !!!!!!

    Now, let’s stop here for a moment. Japan has a population of a
    126 000 000 and worried about losing 56 000 of their qualified intellectuals.
    Hungary has a population around 10 000 000 and lost more than
    500 000 of their best, of their qualified intellectuals.

    If Mr. Bayer should ever read this site and discussion board, I’d like to ask him to highlight this issue in his same outspoken fashion. Speaking about migrants and problems of migration.

  9. Rebecca,

    allow me to react to one point of your comment. You are generally right while one sentence of your comment specifically caught my attention.

    “But your time is over. People are not that stupid, as you liberals thought. You lack logic, and anything you say can be used against you, in another context.”

    Although you addressed another poster my reply neither refers to him and to any other posters personally, nor to HFP. It is just a general view on this issue and I am bringing this here for on the one hand because I agree with you that readers are not stupid, and the other hand, because you have touched a very sensitive question and I believe my comment might be encouraging for other readers.

    I sense a kind of social awakening in the past few months and surfing the net I have found very many signs of that it is not my personal illusion but reality. Let me attach a short excerpt from one of the hundreds of similar pieces that were published on the net. Once again, it is not about HFP or a specific poster but about misleading information, misleading comments printed out on the net either on homepages or – which is most common – by trolls, shills or other posters who actually have no point to share and just come to influence readers to the wrong direction.
    —–
    “Now thanks to the Worldwide Internet, the New Gutenberg Press, truth is being published and broadcast to almost every nation of the World and is diffusing to mainstream……………………….
    “Stooge” misinformation websites, –- and trolls and shills (my own remark) – who use the popular “limited-hangouts, with occasional misleading payloads” approach, are failing because web users have become so sophisticated that they select out the truth nuggets from many websites and connect the dots themselves, and ignore the bad payloads. These increasingly astute readers are then able to connect all the truth nugget dots into fairly sound conclusions………….”

    And there is hope. The “Don’t feed the troll” thing just doesn’t work it is better carry on the line and print out more truth replacing the insults and lies with their positive opposites. Sooner or later they learn that their attempts to induce the desired action creates the opposite effect and they have no choice but to cease and hopefully leave.”

    Therefore your comment Rebecca is highly appreciated.

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